Thursday, March 8, 2012

Sylvester Ojukwu: Why I rebelled against my father Odumegwu Ojukwu, as a boy


For as long as Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu lived, they walked in his shadows. They were totally dwarfed by his larger-than-life status. They walked in the shadows of his intimidating credentials, his enormous wealth, his seeming insatiable appetite for pleasingly distinctive women, his huge network of friends, and the critical roles he played in reshaping the crazy political situations that Nigeria’s incoherent political systems foisted on the country at some points in its history. 
Sylvester Ojukwu: Why I rebelled against my father Odumegwu Ojukwu, as a boyBut now, the iroko has fallen. The mighty one has gone to the land of the spirits, taking with him the veil under which his children, especially the older ones, had been hiding. However, one person that never really wanted to live in the shadows of the departed Eze Igbo Gburugburu is Sylvester, a former policeman-turned-lawyer, the first of Ojukwu’s eight children from “four or five wives,” and his mother’s only child. 
A true son of his father, and looking every bit a chip off the old block, Sylvester, who turns 56 on August 3, struggled desperately, even as a boy, to defy his father’s overwhelming pull, by carving a niche for himself, by being “just me”. Though it was like walking against gravity, a determined Sylvester stuck to his gun, and not only did things differently but also without undue dependence on his late father, Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu. 
For instance, although he was born with the proverbial silver spoon, Sylvester chose to start life through the hard way, joining the Nigeria Police Force as a recruit! Contrary to his father’s wish for him to attend either Cambridge or Oxford or Harvard, he went to study Law at the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, UNN, not on his father’s bill but on study leave or in-service training from the force. He did everything without the old man’s influence. He just wanted to be different. 
“That is the son of whom I am,” he enthuses in an interview with THE SUN team. “The police sponsored my education and it was so gratifying because my father’s influence was not there. I just wanted to prove that I can be me. The driving force was the wise saying of Dr. Nnamdi Azikwe which says that ‘it doesn’t matter what you are and who you are; but whoever you may be and whatever you may be, try to be the best of whatever and whoever you may be.’ …It was not a struggle per se. It was part of my resolve to be different…” 
If you will permit the cliché, this is just a tip of the iceberg. During the almost two-hour interview, Sylvester, an orator, like his father, touched virtually every aspect of his relationship with his super dad. Starting from the day he became conscious of the fact that he was an Ojukwu son, he traced the odyssey to the bitter-sweet memories of Biafra, his reconnaissance roles, as a 10-year-old, within the Boys Company of the Biafran Army, recalled how he and his colleagues were infiltrating enemy lines to ferret information, up to that fateful day when, faced with the imminent collapse of the ill-fated Republic of Biafra, his father fled to exile in Ivory Coast. 
He also spoke on Ojukwu’s titanic battle against four debilitating strokes within a year, saying that just like he used every fibre of his being to fight the secession war between 1967 and 1970, he also fought the strokes to a standstill with everything he had. And when he had to succumb, he went the way of all flesh peacefully. Unlike Biafra, he was never defeated. 
“He was a brave man,” says Sylvester, “and we saw his bravery even on the hospital bed. He really fought his ill health but then his final moments were also peaceful. He held on for one year. What he had was a debilitating stroke, which most people don’t survive. In fact, the day he was being flown out, we thought it was the end. He was in coma when he was flown out. But he held on for one year. We spent four days in the hospital sleeping there at Enugu. But he held on. For that I am most grateful.” 
Of course, the younger Ojukwu also spoke on his relationship with Bianca, who he described as his father’s “only widow”, stating that his relationship with her is “cordial”. “No problem.” 
Well, as they say, the taste of the pudding is in the eating. Please, sit back, relax and enjoy the rest of the interview. 
Excerpts: 
Let’s start by what the name, Odumegwu Ojukwu has brought you, in terms of opportunities and liabilities… 
The name, Odumegwu Ojukwu, to many people, should have brought blessings to me but, ironically, the name brought with it a lot of challenges. 
What are those challenges? 
The challenges are that, somewhat, I was faced with two gentlemen, whose achievements were so tall that I’m so dwarfed and I didn’t even know where to start. Would you talk of my grandfather? He started from nowhere but ended a legend of his own time. Growing up, people alluded so many things to him. Some even said that he was richer than the whole of Nigeria. How he did that, I do not know. But then, that was what I was faced with at that time. Then, his fame hadn’t quite died down when his only natural son too began his unprecedented trajectory in the world. 
You said “his only natural son”… 
Yes, his only natural son…  
How do you mean “his only natural son”? 
I say that without any fear of contradiction. You see, there are many sons, some are adopted sons, some are sons that came from your loin. So, when I say natural, I mean, that that came from his loin.
Can you, then, tell us about the “unnatural” sons?

Experience has taught me to always limit myself to my coin of vantage. I’m talking about my father, so, I would want to limit myself to just that. I don’t want to go into any speculation. 
Earlier, you spoke about the challenges the name Odumegwu Ojukwu imposed on you; but you mentioned only one. What are these other challenges and how did you overcome them? Are his shoes too big for you?
Well, I’ve not been able to overcome them. I’m still grappling with them. For instance, I could think I’ve made a million but it’s still very insignificant when compared with what my grandfather had achieved. As my father told me when he was still in exile, he told me that “a man is only a man when he succeeds his father.” I needed to know exactly what he meant by that. He went further to explain. He said if your father was a primary school teacher and you went ahead and became a secondary school principal, you have succeeded your father. But if your father was a professor, and you ended up being a primary school teacher, even though you are living your life, you are a failure. That was why I said it was very daunting trying to grapple with the achievements they made over the years. If a young person aspires to become a politician, your ultimate goal will be to be Head of State. From Head of State, if you return to your father, who perhaps is a doctor, he will appreciate you as a son. But not when you come back to your father, who has been the Head of State. There is nothing you will show to him that will move him. 
In essence, your father’s larger-than-life status was a big challenge for you to grapple with? 
It was a big very challenge. No matter how hard I tried, it was a spur. It gave me that urge to keep on trying. That’s why when you compare me with some of my peers, they find it difficult to outweigh what I have achieved. But then, the force behind my personal achievements was the credentials of my father. 
But didn’t the name, Ojukwu, give you a giant leap into the world? 
Of course, it did because of the enormous goodwill they (his grandfather, Sir Louis Ojukwu, and his father, Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu) left. Like I’ve always found it very easy to move with the Yoruba. The Yoruba referred to my grandfather as the omoluabi (the special breed), especially in the palace. So, once I enter into the palace, they always say this is the grandson of omoluabi. And that helps them to receive me because in human relationship, the most important stage is the reception. If you go anywhere and you didn’t get a good reception, however fine the message you have, it will be lost because they didn’t even give you the chance. But once you get the reception, then the other things follow. 
When did the realisation of being Ojukwu’s son become clear to you while growing up? 
It started in the secondary school. I attended Government Secondary School, Afikpo. So, I was in the secondary school, and then suddenly I realised that people were not treating me ordinarily. Some didn’t believe I should even go to school. 
Why?
It’s true. Even in the university, my roommates would come to where I was reading and they would be asking me why I was reading. In the secondary school, some believed it was a warrior talking. They had a way of arresting me because they didn’t find the real you. They came to their conclusion even before they gave you a chance to hear you out. That you were almost lost. It was a struggle to let people realise “this is who I am and please do not colour me with my father”. Even with my father, it wasn’t easy. Every time I tell him I am a self-made man, he says “don’t say that again.” But I always insisted “I am a self-made man.” 
How are you a self-made man? 
I grew up, and you may be surprised to know that I joined the police force as a recruit. That is the son of whom I am; joining the police force as a recruit. 
You already had a degree then? 
No, I went to the university on in-service training. I was already in the police before I went to the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, on study leave. The police sponsored my education and it was so gratifying because my father’s influence was not there. I just wanted to prove that I can be me. The driving force was the wise saying of Dr. Nnamdi Azikwe, which says that “it doesn’t matter what you are and who you are; but whoever you may be and whatever you may be, try to be the best of whatever and whoever you may be.” That it doesn’t really matter where you start, the most important thing is where you end up. I was prepared to join the police as a recruit and end up an Inspector General of Police. 
What was the attraction to join the police? One would have expected that you would have opted for the army, which your father was in. Or was this a different kind of struggle? 
It was not a struggle per se. It was part of my resolve to be different because I would be drawing so many IOUs from the army, from the so many instructors he had trained. They all would want to pay back. Then, again, the only place you find true interplay of true nationalism is in the police, army, customs, and, perhaps, in the prisons. These are the only places where your ethnicity is lost, where you can mingle with all Nigerians. Today, the bulk of my associates in Nigeria are scattered all over the country. I’m at home anywhere because of my course mates. For instance, I was in the same place with (Hafiz) Ringim (the immediate past Inspector General of Police). We were in the same place; we shared the same thing. If I go to his town today, I will be very comfortable. The same thing goes for the Yar’Aduas, the Abubakars and so many others. 
Which of the Yar’Aduas? 
The younger brother to the late Head of State. He was in the police. You know they all spread around.
So, when that realisation came to you, how did your teachers treat you?

Well, it was mixed. We used to have a Commissioner of Police called Muhammadu Gambo, who later became the Inspector-General of Police. We also used to have Mamman Nassarawa, Deputy Commissioner of Police, they used to come to promotions board; they always insisted that my father should send me back to Police College to continue where he left. They never felt at ease with my foray into the Nigeria Police Force. That was why, when I was in the police, I was one of the A1 cadets. But then, they always felt that there was a hidden agenda. The ghost of Biafra haunted me throughout and I kept on trying to disprove it. 
That is the very funny thing between my father and me: people won’t allow him to perform, they condemned him. They called him a rebel and other names. But he was the most nationalist man I have ever seen. He loved Nigeria more than any other thing. People didn’t understand that. It played out when I attended Course 1, Nigeria Police Academy. And part of the reason I attended the course was based on that fear. That was why when I finished from the university, they insisted I must go for that course, to delay me, because I was very fast. I was very fast in the sense that when I was the same course mate with the present IG (Hafiz Ringim, before he was removed, last month), none of us was a graduate. But I checked into Nsukka to read Law and that gave me a leap over my course mates and they knew where I was headed.
So, I became a marked student. That was why they insisted I should go back and do another 18 months course. So, when I finished the Course 1, Police Academy, I became the best all-round student. The problem now became: how can we make an Ojukwu the number one of the Police Academy? Then, they began to toy with so many things. Usually, the best all-round student normally delivers the passing-out speech. But they didn’t know how to deal with me. They were afraid I could go to the podium and begin to shout “Hail Biafra”. They nearly didn’t allow me to deliver the speech. At a point, they insisted I should bring my speech for vetting. I refused. I refused because essentially, I deliver most of my speeches extempore, off the cuff. But Fidelis Oyakhilome became the saving grace that day. He said, “Look, I’m a product of education and merit should be uppermost. Let the young man be”. That was it. They allowed me. I got to the stage and delivered the speech for 45 minutes off the cuff. The strand that ran all through the speech was the goodness and betterment of Nigeria.
 The point I’m trying to make is this: an Ojukwu needs to be given the chance. We are more altruistic and nationalist than most people ascribe to us. And trying to downplay an Ojukwu is very mischievous. Situations bring Ojukwu up. When there is normalcy, Ojukwu is there. He is the warmest cat you can have in the society. But when challenges are thrown up, he doesn’t run away. We don’t run away from challenges. 
How old were you when your father declared Biafra? 
I was 10 years old. I was born August 3, 1956. So, anything happening in 1966, I knew about. Biafra was declared May 3, 1967. And the war broke out July 6, 1967. The first shots were fired at Gakem, near Ogoja.
Were you able to comprehend what was going on then?
Well, I’m a precocious child. I reason ahead of my age. That was why I grew up to play a role during the Biafran war. I followed it. I even joined the Boys Company.  
Moving to the East at the onset of the war, how did that transition affect you? 
It affected me a lot. First, I never took second in my class. I was always first. I passed King’s College at the age of nine. I was always moving. But the movement to the East arrested my development. Because of the war and all that, most of us lost three years. When we came back in 1970, I felt out of sort. I had expected that by 14, I should be done with secondary school and by 17, my university education should be over too. I didn’t do that. And that was what led to me attending Government Secondary School, Afikpo. I was to have gone to Oxford or Cambridge. I would have gone to Harvard but those things were the limiting factors. 
So, you eventually attended UNN. What year was that? 
I was there from 1981 to 1985.


Despite being so brainy, you didn’t come out with a first-class… 
No, I didn’t come out with a first-class because a lot of people did not allow me to read. 
How do you mean? 
The pressure was too much. There used to be a horde of people following me wherever I went to. I never had friends. My only friends in the university were the white lecturers because they saw me as a human being. The others saw me as a mini god. Because of the pressure, I never read in the classroom. I only read in the room, and at night too. Most of the time, I was always in my room, reading, because once I was out, it was like a clamour, a fanfare. And personally, inwardly, I didn’t like those distractions but people didn’t know. They taught I was enjoying them. Personally, the only thing I crave is my privacy. But those incursions robbed me of my privacy. 
Even at 55, you are still a handsome guy. I can imagine what you looked like way back; you know, the Ikemba charm, and all that. How did you handle the girls? 
How could you ask me such a question? Do you remember my wife is around here? (Roaring laughter). Because when you say “girls”, perhaps she was one of them. 
So, was she one of them? 
You see, I told you one thing; I cherish my privacy. Next to that is my security. If you start asking me this kind of question, you will go home and you wouldn’t know what I would be facing. 
Okay, what informed your choice of reading Law? 
It was to complete a circle. My grandfather sent my father to Oxford to read Law. He didn’t read Law, he read History. Somewhat, I looked at it and felt he should have read Law.
Why? 
I was so much in love with reading Law. The old man wanted my father to read Law, and when he didn’t, I felt reading Law would complete the wishes of the old man. What again spurred me into law was that I had been in the force and was romancing law enforcement, and I needed to go there to sharpen my knowledge in law. That I did, and it helped me to do my job well. 
Your father was, for about three years, Head of State of the defunct Republic of Biafra. How did that also rub off on you? 
Unfortunately, it didn’t affect me the “normal way” people would have thought. It didn’t rub off on me in any way because it was a very tough time. Besides, I was all the while with my mum, and so, it didn’t affect me. But as I also told you, I was always contending with removing that gap of being the son of this and that. I just wanted to be me, even as a boy. That was why, most times, you hardly saw me with my dad. He used to quarrel with me about that. And I used to tell him, “Dad, I’m your strike force; I’m your mobile police, and mobile policemen do not live in the same barracks with the regular police, because if we are all in one place, and suddenly we are attacked, we’ll both be lost.” That was my reasoning. So, being away from him helped me to develop at my own pace. I was a very big challenge to him because this was his child he did not spoon feed, and yet he was on his feet. 
You said, during the war, you were in the Boys’ Company? 
Yes. 
Did you fight in the war then? 
In the Boys’ Company, there are certain things you do. You do what is called reconnaissance. That means you will go behind the enemy line, ferret information and then, you feed your own soldiers with what you gathered. Yes, I was not in the forefront of the war but there were certain things I observed. 
Could you recall your first reconnaissance assignment? 
There is a place they call Ngbidi, near Agwu. When Enugu fell, there was the movement of the federal troops. Then, they were moving towards Arochukwu after which you go down and then get into Agwu. Something drastic happened. When they got to Arochukwu, they stopped their advance and then, moved to the right. They followed Udi to enter through Achi, cutting off those in Arochukwu and Iyen. So, the people in Arochukwu and Iyen had to withdraw. So, it was there I saw the first casualty at the warfront. I saw some people with their thighs ripped open. After that, the Biafran troops withdrew to as far as Iyen. So, the warfront was in Agwu, and we had to come and survey. Then, the federal troops were so scared that they could not advance. So, they dug in. They went into the trenches and were carrying their guns up, and shooting into the air because they were afraid of the terrain. So, in reconnaissance, you come, observe it and then go back and give your people the information. 
That also means that, in the process, you may have had one or two brushes with death. 
No, it didn’t get to that. I was with a top commander and I was well protected. The closest I would have gotten to was in firing the heavy artillery.


You fired it like a gun? 
Yes, you fire it. It doesn’t take much, it’s just a rope, and you just draw it, and it goes off. We had about nine people firing it. 
So, you actually fired it? 
Yes, of course. 
It also meant you killed… 
(Cuts in…) No, it doesn’t mean that I have killed before. It means that I fought to scare away the enemies. 
But what you fired had a mission…to kill.
It doesn’t mean that each fire would kill. 
Can you answer this question straightforward? Have you ever killed? 
I’ve never killed. God has always directed me properly because I am very particular about human blood. Human blood is strong. There are laws that go with human blood. If you shed human blood, you will never rest until you atone. 
But there is also this saying that all is fair in war…

No, you don’t do that. Even if you found or captured a soldier, a soldier who has shown signs of surrender, you take him prisoner. You don’t kill him.  
Did you have any secret fear when the war was raging?

I didn’t have fears. I didn’t fully appreciate the magnitude of what was happening then. You only begin to nurture fears as you grow old. You know, the older you grow, the more petrified you get. What makes you to be afraid are earthly possessions. But when you haven’t any attachment to anything, you fear nothing. I was doing all those things then without fear because I didn’t find or have any attachment to anything. But when you start acquiring houses and cars, you will be afraid of dying. 
When your father had to go on exile, how did that also affect you?

Did you go with him?

No, I didn’t go with him but I always went to visit him in Ivory Coast.

The day he left, where were you? 
I was in Afikpo area.

Did he meet you before he left? Could you recall the events of that day?
No, he didn’t meet me.


He never met you? 
He didn’t. He left in a hurry. It was several years later before we established the route to go and visit him. And I had to do that incognito. Then, the Federal Government was always suspecting anybody that was going to visit him. If you wanted to go and see him, you had to do that under cover. 
But the man is your father… 
Yes, but you know how people in government think. They suspect and read meaning to every move you make, especially if you are an Ojukwu.

Okay, let’s come to the more recent. I understand you were with your father during his last moments. What were those moments like? 
He was a brave man and we saw his bravery even on the hospital bed. He really fought his ill health but then his final moments were also peaceful.  
How did he fight? 
He held on for one year. What he had was a debilitating stroke, which most people don’t survive. In fact, the day he was being flown out, we thought it was the end. He was in coma when he was flown out. But he held on for one year. We spent four days in the hospital sleeping there at Enugu. But he held on. For that I am most grateful. 

What were the things he was telling you on his sick bed any time you visited?

He couldn’t say much. The last time we had full communication was when the first attack of stroke came. 
When was that? 
That was in October (2010). I was told by the wife (Bianca) that he had been attacked. So I rushed down. On getting to Enugu, I saw him and I was confused. I didn’t know what to do. I shouted in my fears. I said nothing was going to happen to him. I was just trying to give myself a lot of confidence. Then, I started massaging him from the left arm up to the neck down to the right arm.

So, both arms were affected? 
No, it was the right arm that was badly hit. 
When did the second one happen? 
About the second week 
Was there a third one? 
Yes, there was a third one, which led to him being rushed to the University of Nigeria Teaching Hospital, UNTH. Then, there was a fourth one that happened in London. And you know stroke kills at the first strike. But my father never went from the first, or from the second, or from the third, until after the fourth. That should tell you the type of person he was. And by fighting it, he gave us a respite. That is why I am comfortable talking to you now, because if it had happened last year, maybe I would have even gone on exile.

Why? 
He was a great man. He had a lot of followers. There were so many things about him. The greatest one was how do you say he was no more? How do you convey that message to the Igbo?

What were some of his unaccomplished dreams, failed dreams that he intimated you with as his first son? 
Well, I don’t think he had any. He finished all his dreams. And he even did more than expected. He over-achieved. He died into his 79th year. The Bible gave us 70 years. So, he stayed over that. He had me, I had children and my two children are already graduates. He saw his grandchildren. Perhaps, if he had given us a year or two, he may have seen his great grandchildren. So, I think he overachieved. At 33, he was a Head of State of the Republic of Biafra. There was one game I normally played. If I read so much about him in historical books, I juxtaposed his achievements with what I achieved at that stage, I found out that he did more than his mates.  
So, he shouldn’t have any regrets? 
No, he shouldn’t, because he knows that his destination would ultimately be met. And what was that destination? It’s truth and justice for his people.

Could you let our readers an insight into the size of the Ojukwu clan? 
It’s a very large dynasty or clan. It is not about the first or the second or the third or the fourth generation. Conservatively, let’s put it at the fifth generation. His great grandfather was Ojukwu Ezeogbonu. And after that, you had Ojukwu Ezeokigbo. All these were fairy warriors. That is why he was acting true to type during Biafra. People used to hire his grandfather for local warfare. Anywhere you had some very tense moments, you brought him and once he got there, he quelled them. 

What about the size of his own family? 
Moderate. Not anything obtuse. 

You are the first out of how many children? 
As at today, we are eight. 

Just eight? 
Yes. 
From how many wives? 
You could say from four or five wives. I’m the only one from my mother. There are others from a different woman and there are others from another woman. And then, you get to Bianca, the widow.

Why do you emphasise “Bianca, the widow”? 
She is the only widow. 
What about the others? 
The others are dead, and I think she is the only widow. 
What’s the relationship between you and Bianca? 
Cordial. No problem. 
Are you sure about that? 
Yes, I’m very sure. 
There were reports of a supposed feud between you two, and that you never saw eye-to-eye… 
(Cuts in…) The only thing is that there are so many things I don’t agree with, and you know when you have one woman in the house, there are so many things we may disagree with. But that is not to say we are feuding. We are not feuding. 
We even understand that she shielded you, the children, from having access to your father. And your father conceded so many things to her because he was truly in love with her.

My father was in love with everything that was his, and most especially his children. So, nobody could hinder his children from seeing him. He was very close to his children irrespective of anything anybody had to say. He loved his children. 
What honour would you love Nigeria to accord your father at this point in time, especially when you view the way heroes are buried in other countries? 
Well, I wouldn’t think of honour in terms of monuments. It would be more gratifying to me if his passage brings all-encompassing peace to Nigeria. If Nigerians can say that because of his passage, let us now resolve our issues and live in peace. The most annoying aspect of this funeral rite is that I am planning for his funeral rites and they are slaughtering some people somewhere. So, my first appeal is that peace should reign everywhere, especially during this period. That is why if I were to constitute a burial committee for him, I would include a representative of Boko Haram. They should come. 
Why? 
They should come. Engage them. They can be part of us. You see, when you exclude them, you invite violence. We need to find out what the problem is. We can do without this carnage. That is why if you bring out the burial committee of my father and I don’t see a Boko Haram representative, I don’t see someone from Oodua People’s Congress and the Arewa People’s Forum, it is not complete. It should be a synergy because that is what he represented. 
You are talking about Boko Haram and I’m sure that you are aware of attempts by the Federal Government to engage them in dialogue. But none has held. Even the one that former President Obasanjo brokered ended in another tragedy. The next day, Boko Haram killed the man he spoke with right in his home… 
Still, we must continue to do that because two wrongs do not make a right. It’s either the messenger was not right or the message was wrong. And I’m sure if my father were around today, he would have walked into the Boko Haram camp, unarmed, (and) they would give him a guard of honour. That is the man we have lost.

You are talking about Boko Haram as if it were a nationalist body. This is a body that has announced itself as a terrorist group with the way its members plant bombs everywhere and blow up innocent people.
The problem with us in Nigeria is that we always cast people into stereotypes. You now used the word “terrorists”. I feel it’s too harsh a word for us to use on them. You have to meet with them and know why they are agitating. It’s too far-fetched to write them off. Except we are saying they are not Nigerians. Yes, they may be sponsored by some people, but who are they? Let’s find out, and let’s know what their grievance is with the Nigerian establishment. The other time, it was the Niger Delta Volunteer Front, and they were blowing up oil establishments and we thought that was the end of the world. Today, they are dignified human beings. They have been rehabilitated and there is quiet in that area now. Why can’t we do the same for these people? Instead of condemning and calling them names, let’s find out what the problem is.
 Do you see Nigeria at the fringes of extinction as predicted by an American group a few years back?
 The dangers are real but it is not beyond salvation. They are real because if we don’t arrest the drift, we might end up playing out the script that has been written.
What do we need to do to get out of this situation?
 One popular abuse is, “you are mad.” Let us refuse to be mad. Let us refuse to break up. 
But somebody as nationalist as Chief Obafemi Awolowo once said that Nigeria was just a mere geographical expression. Many people have concurred with Awolowo since he said that statement, saying that what Nigeria is suffering now is that artificial amalgamation of 1914.
 But that if we must part ways, let us do it peacefully. I’m not saying we shouldn’t be a fusion.
  
How can we achieve that without carrying arms?
 By dialogue. Sit round the table and talk, eyeball-to-eyeball.
 Since this interview is all about your dad, let us end with him. In paying your final tributes to him, what would you write or that he has asked you to write as his epitaph?
 No, he didn’t ask me to write anything. But like the tribute I wrote for him, I said: “I sat ensconced in my coin while you straddled and dominated the world”. When you check his height and his towering height, my abject status pales into insignificance. “But then, father, I was very comfortable in my own corner because your presence shielded me from the harsh realities of the world. Now that you are gone, I am exposed because my cover is blown. I am only left with memories and teachings and memories of the quality times that we shared together, father to son.” 
That’s my tribute to him. When he was alive, I didn’t feel dwarfed by all of you (journalists). When he was alive, I could go to the market and buy booli (roasted plantain) and eat but now, it’s not even up to one month he left, I’m having hordes of journalists pursuing me. But when he was alive, he shielded me from all this. I had my privacy and I enjoyed it.  
 What is the best advice you ever got from your father?
 We shared many moments together and he used to give me snippets. For instance, there is one about being conscious with friends. He told me that if you are sitting with your friend, and suddenly you bend over, trying to lace (your) shoes, and before you could raise your head, you suddenly see a knife behind your head, he would give the friend a safe distance, because if that friend

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